SCIENCE AT THE SHINE DOME 2005: ANNUAL SYMPOSIUM
Recent advances in stem cell science and therapies
6 May 2005
ES-equivalent adult stem cells from cord blood
by Professor Gesine Kögler
| Introduction by Professor Roger Short (Session chair) Was there ever a paper that
revolutionised my mind! It was produced by Professor Kögler on 18 July last
year in the Journal of Experimental Medicine. It was Bob Williamson who
brought it to our attention, and here was this amazing discovery that human
cord blood, taken at birth, is full of stem cells. So we immediately convened a
meeting of our hospital ethics committee to ask whether we should tell all
women having babies in the Royal Women’s Hospital, ‘Your baby is born with a
life insurance policy. It is born with stem cells that it could call on for the
rest of its adult life, if we could store them.’ What an incredible thought.
And were we being unethical in not informing pregnant mothers that there was
this possibility at birth? The ethics committee ummed and erred and ahhed, as
ethics committees often do, and reached no conclusion. I think I would have travelled
halfway round the world to hear Gesine talk about her work from Düsseldorf. She
is the Professor for Immunology in Medicine in Düsseldorf, and this paper in
the Journal of Experimental Medicine, 18 July 2004, made our photocopier
run out of ink!
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First of all I would like to thank
the Australian Academy of Science for inviting me, and giving me the chance to
present some of our data.

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Eliot Marshall, in his paper in Science
282: 1014, 1998, said: ‘Imagine being able to reach into the freezer, take out
a cell culture, treat it with growth factors, and produce almost any tissue in
the human body.’ Several scientists thought seven years ago that it would be
very easy, with embryonic stem cells, to regenerate liver, kidney, heart, skin,
neurons and other tissues of the body.

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And we all thought that maybe
embryonic stem cells are great, since they are able to produce endodermal
tissue, mesodermal tissue, they are able to produce neural cells.

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However, even recent work showed
that highly differentiated neural nerve cells from mouse embryonic stem cells,
transplanted into a syngeneic organism into another mouse, into the brain of
the mouse showed teratoma formation. And, when we looked at this tissue (this
was the work of one of my colleagues, as of 2003, in collaboration with the Max
Planck Institute in Cologne) we did not observe neurons in the brain but we
observed cartilage in the brain. This means for us as scientists that we have
to solve the problem of tumour formation first, because otherwise we don’t see
any way that these cells can be used in a clinical application.
And there was the question: are
there alternatives?

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It has been known for more than 20
years now that cord blood is a very valuable source of hemopoietic stem
cells, and that the hemopoietic stem cell compartment contains many more
long-term culture initiating cells, or mouse repopulating cells, compared with
adult bone marrow or adult peripheral blood.

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It was the pioneering work of
Professor Gluckman, in Paris, to transplant the first patient with Franconi’s
anaemia in 1988.

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This was the reason we were motivated,
in Düsseldorf, to establish both a related and an unrelated cord blood bank. We
have stored, up to today, more than 8000 unrelated and related cord blood
units, and have transplanted 262 patients.

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I would like to point out that cord
blood is a very safe source of hemopoietic stem cells. It can be obtained
after the delivery of the baby and it can be processed up, under sterile
conditions under industrial conditions. In Germany and in many other
countries, cord blood is a pharmaceutical drug, and there are several
international applications making the use of cord blood very safe.

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This has motivated the whole world,
not only to establish cord blood banks, including in Australia, but also to go
for cord blood transplantations for unrelated and related ones. And up to today
more than 5000 cord blood transplantations have been performed in patients with
leukaemia, haematological and metabolic disorders and genetic diseases.
However, the hallmarks of cord
blood are that the stem cell compartment is very immature, compared with adult
cells; the cells have a higher proliferative potential, associated with an
extended life span and there are many publications out; they are always
available, there is no risk for the donor; there are no ethical issues;
infectious agents such as cytomegalovirus or Epstein-Barr virus are rare
exceptions; and immunological immaturity is of great importance. That means we
can transplant over histocompatibility or HLA barriers.
And there was a question: are there
other stem cells in cord blood?

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There were some observations by
Ende et al. that so-called ‘Berashi cells’ are responsible for clinical effects
observed in SOD mice and mice with a neuronal teratoma [inaudible] defect, as
so-called amyotrophic lateral sclerosis. But he was never able to detect these
Berashi cells.
There was another observation, by
Chen et al. in 2001, that intravenously administered cord blood has been shown
to reduce behavioural defects after a stroke in rats. But it was never clear
what kind of cell it was from cord blood.

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Last year we described the new
human somatic stem cell from placental cord blood referred to as unrestricted
somatic stem cell, or USSC.

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This cell can be generated from 30
per cent of all cord blood samples. This cell has a very low frequency: we can
obtain in medium only four with a frequency of one to eleven per 100 to 200 in
our cord blood. However, they are easily expandable in culture. It is very easy
to generate one to 108 up to 1015 cells[JEM 2004]. That
means it is a very rare cell but it can be amplified.

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The telomere lengths of the cells correlates
with the age of the cells. A long telomere means a young cell. From this slide
we can see that the telomere length of USSC is much longer, compared to adult
mesenchyma cells harvested from bone marrow donors.

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As of today we are able to generate
these USSCs from 30 per cent of fresh cord blood specimens. We do not see a
correlation to gestational age; also I would like to point out here that due to
ethical considerations we are only allowed to take cord blood starting in week
36. I do not see a correlation to the volume, to the number of nucleated cells
or to the hours after cord blood collection. Nevertheless, I have tried to work
with very young and fresh cord blood.

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The immunophenotype of the USSCs is
quite similar in all the cell lines. We never see the expression of CD34; the
cell does not express CD45, which is the marker for hemopoietic antigens.

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However, the cells seem to express
some markers of endothelial formation as FLK-1 and von Willebrand factor.

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And even in immunochemistry you can
never observe the marker CD45, which is a hemopoietic antigen. That means it
is really a non-hemopoietic cell in cord blood.

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It is very important to point out
here that USSCs expanded in culture up to 19 or 20 passages; they have a very
normal karotype 46XX or 46XY. That means they are very stable in culture. However, one of the main features
of the cell is the differentiation potential.

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All the USSCs from cord blood
tested so far were able to be triggered into the mesenchymal cell
differentiation. Under certain differentiation conditions they were able to
perform osteoblasts and to develop into bone, and under different conditions
they were able to develop into chondrocytes or into adipocytes. In a
collaboration with Arnold Caplan, in Cleveland, we used an atumoric rat model
in order to show whether the USSCs are able to repair a critical size femur
defect. In the first of these X-rays on the slide you can see it is a porous
ceramic cylinder without any cells, and after several weeks no healing is
observed. If the USSCs are allowed into the cylinder you can see, in the lower
X-ray, a healing between four and eight weeks after implantation.
If we introduced the USSCs into gelatine
sponges and introduced them under the skin of NOD/SCID mice, a chondrogenesis
in the mouse was observed and here you see the staining toluidine blue for an
extracellular matrix which the cell produced.

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In addition, in order to look for
the safety of the cell in NOD/SCID mice we used several approaches, and we also
injected cells intrafemurally into these NOD/SCID mice.

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And it was interesting for us to
see that we injured the femur at this time, so when USSCs were applied
intrafemurally the USSCs were sitting there and were repairing the bone. They
did not go out to the spleen or to any other organs.
In contrast, when hemopoietic
cells were infused into the mouse, we observed colony formation in the injected
femur but also in the spleen. That means we can really see that in this model
the cells are sitting there and repairing the injury.

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However, for me the quality control
is ultimately not only that we were able to differentiate the cell in the
mesenchymal cell direction but that we were able to differentiate them under
certain conditions into neurons and astroglial cells. In this slide we see an
expression of the so-called neurofilament, and some of the neurofilament
positive cells do express sodium channels. In addition we can observe the
expression of synaptophysin and the inhibitory transmitter GABA. It is more
interesting that some of the cells, upon differentiation, are positive for
tyrosine hydroxylase, which is a precursor enzyme for the dopimergic pathway.
And I can say today that even in the hBLc we observed the production of
dopamine.
In addition, some cells are able to
be expressed for choline acetyl transferase, and upon transplantation in a rat
brain, several months after transplantation we observed human cells in the
brain.

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In order to look for repair in
other organs we used a model system which is known from Professor Zanjani. Here
we are able to introduce the cells at 60 days. At 60 days the sheep cannot
reject the human cells; that means it is a perfect model for human cells. It is
not an injury model, it is just a model to follow the fate of the cells in a
normal organism. Several months after transplantation, both the heart and the
liver of these animals were harvested.

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It is very clear here that human
cells integrated in the right atria and they are integrated into the left
ventricle. Here we have double staining both for a human antibody and for
cardiac myocyte antibodies, the human dystrophin, and you can see here that the
cells are overlapping. That means the cells really integrated in the heart and
produced cardiomyocytes. In addition to cardiomyocytes we saw a staining for
the so-called Purkinje fibres. These are cells which are important for the
electric coupling in the heart.

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Furthermore, we showed that cells
were also carrying the so-called ryanodine receptor, which is a functional
receptor in the heart. That means that in this model system, in the preimmune
sheep, the cells were able to regenerate cardiomyocytes and Purkinje fibres.

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On analysing the liver of the
animals, it was obvious that 80 per cent of the liver cells stained positive
for a human hepatocyte antibody. When we look at the section of the whole liver
shown at the left of this slide we see that of the whole liver, 20 per cent
were of human origin. And they did not only stain positive for human hepatocyte
antibody but they also produced albumin.
In addition we formed Weston blot
experiments to look at the serum of these animals, 17 months after
transplantation. And the cells here also produced human albumin. And then we
asked whether the human hepatocyte cells were fused with sheep cells or stayed
alone and just produced human factors.

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Therefore we used single cell PCR
on microdissected cells. And here it was clear that human cells were really
stained positive only for human markers and not for sheep markers. That means
that in this non-injury model we never observed fusion to the sheep cells.

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Since the in vivo results
were very convincing, we tried to follow the fate of the cells towards endodermal
differentiation in vitro. And therefore we looked at the embryonic
developments described for mouse and human, and we defined primers important
for the liver, as for instance α-1-antitrypsin, α-fetoprotein,
albumin, hepatocyte growth factor, and markers for the human pancreas, as
ISL-1, PDX, NKX6.

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However, the results we have up to
today show that the USSCs differentiated in vitro under certain
conditions were negative for several markers, including insulin, Pax4, PDX-1. But
they were positive for HNF4a, α-GATA4, albumin, α-1-antitrypsin,
ISL-1 and several other markers known to be expressed in the liver and the
pancreas but, of course, also in other tissues. That means we are able to
generate at this stage only precursor cells.

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Here you see an example of how it
looks. We have a nice expression of Cyp3A and of ISL-1, which are precursor
cells for both endodermal and mesodermal development.

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Therefore we are trying now to
establish in vitro models to co-cultivate the USSCs together with a biological
dish of liver tissue, injured liver tissue, rat hepatocytes and sheep
hepatocytes. But these experiments are ongoing.
For me there was still a question.
If the cell is so beautiful as to go towards several differentiation lineages,
for me as a cord blood transplant physician it was also important to find out
whether the cells can really support hemopoiesis in a transplant situation.

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Therefore we measured the cytokine
production of these cells. It was obvious that the cells produced a wide range
of cytokines, as for instance SCF, which is a well-known stem cell factor, to
produce LIF; they produced such other factors as VEGF.

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And when we irradiated the cells and
put CD34+ cells from cord blood in it, we saw a high proliferation
of other hemopoietic cells on the feeder layers. That means the USSCs can
also serve as a biological niche for hemopoietic cells.

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And we saw a very nice
amplification of total cells, of pre-hemopoietic precursor cells and of
myeloid precursor cells.

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Also and this is important for
people working in haematology we saw amplification of some long-term culture-initiating
cells in vitro.

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For us, the major points in the
future of the ongoing projects are whether we are able to differentiate the
USSCs also in other tissue, for instance muscle; we will use, for example, an mdx-deficient
mouse to analyse whether the cells are able to regenerate skeletal muscle, and
of course we are looking for animal models suitable to accept human cells. In
addition, one of the hallmarks will be that we analyse the immune reactivity of
these cells. We are developing, together with Anne Dickinson in Newcastle, UK, a human in vivo skin explant model for evaluation of USSC alloimmunocompatibility.

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And it looks to us that, compared
with the control, the USSC might immunosuppress an immune reaction. This would
mean that we can go via more HLA or histocompatibility barriers than expected or that we must match the generated USSCs for HLA to the patient.
However, I would like to point out
at this stage, already today, we are not only performing cord blood
transplantation and we are not only using embryonic stem cells for research,
but we can use so-called adult bone marrow autologous bone marrow nuclear
cells at certain ages to repair an infarcted myocardium and in chronic
ischaemia. This is very helpful for patients between 40 and 60 years.

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I think later on it will be quite
difficult to harvest enough stem cells from the bone marrow. But at this stage
I would like to point out that already, in Düsseldorf, we have transplanted 120
patients with these kinds of diseases by using autologous adult stem cells into
the infarcted area, and the results are very convincing.

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We have here the initial scans of the
heart wall, at the time of the myocardial infarction, showing the so-called
dead tissue. And after three months we see a regeneration of this tissue. That
means today we already have a tool to help patients with some diseases.

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As the end of my presentation I
would like to thank my international collaborators, Esmail Zanjani and Judith
Airey from Reno, Arnold Caplan from Cleveland. I have many cooperations with
John Dick and with Anne Dickinson in Newcastle.
And I would like to point out that
for us it is very important to compare the data we have today with people
generating tissue out of embryonic stem cells, because I personally feel we
need many embryonic stem cells to learn the differentiation pathways from them.
Otherwise, also in adult transplantation medicine, if I may put it this way, it
is very hard to analyse the function of the generated cells.

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This is my team. I would like to
point out that the people in white are the people who are doing routine work in
the clinic but the people in black are the researchers that we have, because we
feel it very important that we have many tasks to fulfil during the next years.
Questions/discussion
Chair Well, Gesine, that
is even more fantastic than I thought it was going to be. Don’t you get
this amazing feeling that really what Gesine has shown us is that the fetus is
swimming with stem cells in its blood? Maybe we should have known this long
ago, because in 1912 two scientists in Vienna showed that in cattle the
freemartin condition where, if you have twins, the female is born sterile occurs
because there is a vascular anastomosis between the two fetal circulations. And
we have known for 50 years, in cattle, that if you have twins there is a fetal
vascular anastomosis in 90 per cent of cases and the twins are born chimaeric,
with one another’s leucocytes and erythrocytes.
So the evidence has been staring us
in the face, but it actually took this fantastic piece of work from Düsseldorf
to bring it home to us that here are ethical stem cells with an enormous
potential, because they are human stem cells and they are ones that we make
ourselves. Is there a single person in the audience here who would think that
it is unethical to study stem cells from human cord blood? Could you raise your
hand? Can we please report to parliament that there was not one single person
at this meeting who could find any objection, ethically, to the work that has
just been presented!
Question Do these
stem cells behave like side population cells, and express ABC cassette
transporters? And do they give rise to symmetric or asymmetric cell division,
or both?
Gesine Kögler This is the
work we are just doing. We are looking now for the ABC transporters and how the
ABC transporters are down-regulated upon differentiation, for instance, in the
osteogenic differentiation.
On the other question, I am not
sure if they divide asymmetrically. This is work that we are also doing now,
because we have now the experience with 81,133 cells from cord blood that do
divide asymmetrically. So it was first to establish the method and now we will
adapt this to USSCs.
Question Can I ask why
you are cautious about going into clinical practice? Cord blood is the one tool
that is known to be safe. As you said, there have been 8000 transplants, there
have been no teratomas, it works. You are looking at an audience, many of whom
are at high risk of heart attack. Why are we not actually using cord blood
today if it is HLA matched for therapy?
Gesine Kögler I think
there are two issues. One issue is that the USSCs we have now can only be
generated from fresh cord blood. That means that at the time of collection we
have to cultivate the cells immediately and cryopreserve them down. This costs
a lot of money, because all the serum we cultivate them in is very expensive.
So we would need sponsoring. I have a cord blood bank of 8000, and I would need
at least several hundred of these USSC-generated cell lines, because at this
stage I do not get them from cryopreserved cord blood. I can easily
cryopreserve the USSCs, but if I try to get them from frozen cord blood it is
very difficult, or I do not get them.
But I can tell you that we are
planning with our cardiology department that this year, in patients with a
severe cardiomyopathy who are unable to get a heart, we will try to use cord
blood in an allogenic setting where we isolate the AC133 compartment in order
to get endothelial cells, and then implant this into these patients without
immunosuppression. And for me it is just a question of immune reaction.
I personally feel we cannot harm the
patient, because in a case of a heart transplant he would also get, for
instance, immunosuppression, but we will try for the first time to do it
without immunosuppression. But I have to bring it through the ethics committee.
I think from regulatory points of view, since it is a pharmaceutical drug it
will not be such a problem. I think people will try it, and I expect they will
try soon.
Question There are a
couple of issues that are worth discussing a bit further. One is that in the
liver you have a lot of polyploid cells, so it is normally a tissue which
contains polyploid cells as a normal function. Markus Grompe has shown very
nicely in the mouse that a hemopoietic stem cell/macrophage cell will actually
fuse with the liver cells, be polyploid and correct liver disease. So I think
there is already some evidence that a hemopoietic stem cell will do that, and
in animals that is well accepted.
I am a little hesitant in
thinking about these cells as being pluripotential, despite the Chair’s
enthusiasm. I think the need to demonstrate that it is not a trophic effect or
a fusion effect is what is challenging a lot of the publications in this area
at the current time. I suppose what I would ask as a question is this: do you
really have evidence that these cells are residing in the tissue without
fusion? Clearly, I accept that mesenchymal stem cells will do that.
Gesine Kögler Yes. I have
shown one slide with one example, but it took us a while it took us two
referees, so to speak to analyse each cell. We later captured one single cell
and we presented this also to the referees of the paper. We later captured a
single cell; this can be controlled, and then you can do a single cell picture.
And we used both T-cell receptors, different in sheep and human beings, and in
addition immunoglobulin strains. We never had both a human cell detected by an
ovine genome or vice versa. So it was very clear. In this case it was a
non-injury model where we never observed fusion. The majority of models where
fusion was observed were injury models, where it is normal, it is physiological
that the cells fuse. However, in clinical situations, I wouldn’t care if it was
fusion or not.
Question (continued) I
agree with you. Please don’t take it as a criticism. I am just exploring some
of the basic biology with you. Do you have evidence that these cells actually
ever form cardiac muscle cells, cardiomyocytes? That has really been very
difficult to show in many other situations.
Gesine Kögler I am not an
expert on cardiomyocyte in vitro differentiation. The only data we have
at present is from the sheep model. However, I plan to have a pig model this
year, and so we will see. But in vitro differentiation of cardiomyocytes
is a very difficult topic anyway, I think.
Question To what
degree do these cells enter the maternal circulation, and if they are there,
are they likely to have some positive effect, a negative effect, or neutral?
Gesine Kögler Ah, it’s a
very good question. But at the beginning, when I started the cord blood bank in
1992–93, we looked at whether we had contaminating cells of the mother in the
cord and of the cord in the mother. It seems to be that you always have a
traffic between maternal cells and fetal cells, but this is a very low
frequency, below one in 100,000. And the cells we generated are really from the
child and not from the mother, because this you can detect by HLA. But there is
always a traffic between both cells, and of course we all know that some
maternal cells can make some damage in the child and vice versa.
Question When you
injected the human cord blood into the sheep fetus, you harvested the heart and
the liver and found the human cells there. Did you look in any other organs?
Gesine Kögler We tried,
but at this time when we harvested the organs we had the problem that there
were not good markers or no markers available distinguishing between ovine
and human, for instance in the pancreas. It was very frustrating. And we
harvested some of the animals two and a half or three years later, because we
thought maybe there was something left, but we only found some cells in the
kidney.
Question (continued) You
found cells in the kidney?
Gesine Kögler Yes, and
this was surprising. But not in the other organs, maybe because of the high
turnover.
Question (continued) Can
you tell us what other organs you did look for these cells in?
Gesine Kögler After two
and a half years we only looked in the liver again, the heart, the kidney. Yes,
that’s it.
Question (continued) Can
you tell us what cells in the kidney, what part of the kidney?
Gesine Kögler I don’t have
any idea. I have already discussed this with some people. Single cells, I don’t
know what.
Question The question
of blood cells making neurones, as Martin Pera raised, has been very
controversial. What you showed us was cells that had neurotransmitters. A
neurone is a neurone when it functions as a neurone. Do you have any evidence
that it has electrophysiological properties at all in these cells?
Gesine Kögler We tried
quite hard to look at the electrophysiology also. I showed that they have
sodium channels. But we only got not very good signals, and what we are
planning now is to do cold cultures with the cells, with neuronal tissue,
because Professor Kottmeyer, in our physiology department, who I think is an
expert in this field, has told us that this might improve the function.
Chair Maybe I could end
with a challenge for all these young research workers-to-be who are in the back
row. Any one of you could start some stem cell research tomorrow morning which
would be invaluable. Go to your nearest slaughterhouse, wait until a pregnant
cow comes through, and if it has twin fetuses just check that there is a
vascular anastomosis, which as I said in 90 per cent of cases there will be. Then
look at those two fetuses and, using some simple serology, see how chimaeric
they are with respect to organs other than blood and white cells. Sitting in
the old freemartin maybe is the answer to all these questions. Does each twin
share part of its co-twin’s brain? Does it share its co-twin’s germ cells?
There is some evidence for that. Does it share its co-twin’s skin?
And if really, through Gesine’s research,
we have got this new concept that the fetus is swimming in stem cells, and that
if fetal blood gets into another fetus you will have a massive transfusion of
stem cells, it gives a whole new concept to biology.
Gesine, why is it, do you think, that
the fetus is swimming with spare parts?
Gesine Kögler I think we
know this from the hemopoietic system already. You have many circulating
hemopoietic stem cells going on from fetal liver to bone marrow, and this is
just a resource because the fetus has to undergo remodelling all the time. I
personally think this is just a stem cell resource a fetus has, because we know
from the cord blood that the hemopoietic cells are only in cord blood. if
you take the baby blood one day after the delivery, they are gone. It is not
the same quality any more. So there must be a reason, at the end of the
pregnancy or during the whole pregnancy, that you have so many stem cells in
it.
Chair As a final thought,
could we get our terminology straight? How would you like to call these cells
in cord blood? Do we call them ‘newborn stem cells’?
Gesine Kögler Neonatal.
Chair Shall we agree on
that? This would actually be a very important definition to establish. Let’s
call them NSC, neonatal stem cells.
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