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Collaborating in Canada on broadleaf weed control
You then travelled to Canada. Why was that?
I was enjoying the
project at the Department of Agriculture, but I really wanted to continue
research into the biological control of weeds, so I applied for a postdoctoral
position at the University of Guelph, in Ontario. The job was actually
advertised on the internet and I was interviewed by email, which in the mid‑’90s
was unusual. I was successful and went to Canada for three years.
This was quite a
large collaborative project on biological control of broadleaf weeds, mainly
focusing on dandelion. (It was an easy project to explain to people: ‘I’m
trying to control those weeds in your backyard that have the yellow flowers and
the white heads.’) There were many groups involved three university groups,
large industry groups, and also a government organisation.
I notice that your publications are all collaborative ones. Do you
work in collaboration because your work dictates it, or because you enjoy it?
It’s a bit of
both. Mostly the work dictates it. It is very rare in my field to have a
publication all by yourself you’re usually working in collaboration with
others. The increased involvement of industry in science, too, leads to
collaborative papers. But at the same time, I enjoy sharing ideas, bouncing
ideas off other people.
Does this have something to do with the multidisciplinarity of your
subject?
I guess so. I
think the best way is to take a holistic, multidisciplinary approach, looking
at a problem from all angles. And when you have different people, with
different backgrounds and experience, involved in a project, that’s when you
get some good answers.
After your work in Canada you went travelling for another year.
Yes. I was offered
a job in Orange, New South Wales, to work on biological control of weeds after
my postdoc dandelion work. It was a very tough decision whether to take that
job and come home straightaway, or to travel for a year. But it was only a
one-year contract position, without a lot of security, and travelling won out.
I thought, ‘Well, I’m already halfway round the world. Before I head home, I
may as well see some of it.’ And I have no regrets at all. I travelled for
about five months in North and South America and then about three and a half
months in Europe. It was wonderful.
Potato and canola disease research
What are you working on now?
I have two
research projects at present. One is in conjunction with scientists at the
Institute for Horticultural Development, in the Department of Natural Resources
[formerly the Department of Agriculture], where I worked before I went to
Canada. We are looking at silver scurf, a fungal blemish disease of potatoes
that just causes a mark on their skin but is a big problem in the industry. The
project is mainly focusing on finding out more about the fungus and how it
spreads from one tuber to another, and also how it survives in the soil or
perhaps on other plant material to infect in the next year.
In the other
project I am looking at the disease resistance of canola-quality Brassica lines. Brassica species are used to make
canola oil and other products, and they are resistant to various fungal
diseases, including blackleg (a big industry problem). But the industry is not
sure if these Brassica lines are resistant to other fungal diseases such
as Sclerotinia stem rot and Alternaria blackspot, both of which are
becoming more important. So that is what I am looking at.
Commercial partners in science
Has your work ever been funded by large corporations, such as
biotech companies?
There were
actually three commercial partners in the project that I was working on in
Ontario, the biological control of dandelions. They put in about half the money
for the project, and the government of Canada put in the other half. Since I've
returned to Melbourne there has been some interest in my PhD work, as I
mentioned, so that a commercial sponsor based in New South Wales is
involved in trying to get the fungus on the market as a product.
A lot of research,
especially in my field, is funded by industry, and that’s probably going to
continue for a while. I guess generally the government has cut back and
industry has stepped in, and funding opportunities where you have matching
money half from industry and half from government are very common.
Does he who pays the piper, call the tune?
Does this influence the type of research you do, and whether you can
publish it?
Industry
involvement does make a difference to the type of research. If they’re
providing the money, you can expect them usually to want answers to specific
questions, and to a certain extent they do drive the direction of the research
project. You have to be able to strike a balance as to how much input they
have. As long as you are making sure that the science is good, then that’s all
that counts.
As to publishing:
most of the work I did at the University of Guelph was under confidentiality
agreements, because the commercial partners really wanted to get a product on
the market, something that they could sell to control dandelions and other
broadleaf weeds. Basically you had to keep a secret, which was kind of exciting
and you felt you were working on something important. But it did preclude any
publications at the time, and that was a bit frustrating. Those confidentiality
agreements are just starting to wind down now, so I am able to start to publish
some work.
Did it worry you to be working under such conditions?
No, except that it
might hurt my career as a scientist, because a good scientist has to publish.
But I think that was outweighed at the time by the importance of the work and
I felt that anybody in that field would know that when you have industry
partners involved, you often have to work under confidentiality agreements.
It’s the nature of many aspects of science these days.
An edited transcript of the full interview can be found at http://www.science.org.au/scientists/ssw.htm.
Focus questions
- How might biological control of weeds work? What advantages or disadvantages do you think it could have compared to other kinds of weed control?
- What is a confidentiality agreement and why do you think such agreements are in place?
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